Episode #461 – Sean Sidney

Sean Sidney is known for his original negotiation concepts like “logic levers,” the “persuasion sandwich,” and “Bluff-4,” and has trained more than 8,000 professionals to secure better deals and deliver real business value. I’m talking to Sean this week all about how procurement pros gain leverage in even the most high-stakes deals. 

Sean generously shares his favorite tactics, including how to use threats respectfully, the power of emotional acceptance, and the strategic application of logic levers. Whether you’re in sales or procurement, Sean’s actionable, relatable insights will help you navigate challenging negotiations, avoid common pitfalls, and forge better business relationships.

Plus, you’ll hear real-world stories from Sean’s own career, practical tips to recognize and counter aggressive negotiation moves, and the essential dos and don’ts that every negotiator should live by.

Outline of This Episode

• [05:52] Emphasize emotion in persuasion: connect emotionally, be respectful, wrap emotional appeal around threats, and use logic to justify decisions
• [07:11] Strategize to unsettle competitors and align sales for the best deal
• [12:25] Focus on win-win negotiations by trading asymmetric variables to maximize value
• [14:15] Collaborative negotiation involves sitting side by side to achieve mutual success
• [18:54] Appreciate negotiating tips; emphasize quid pro quo strategy.
• [23:14] Understanding stakeholders’ drivers and using backdoor selling effectively can influence decisions

Mastering Negotiation in Sales and Procurement

At the foundation of effective negotiation lies a clear understanding of the difference between strategy and tactics. Sean Sidney succinctly explains:

• Strategy is the overarching plan designed to achieve a specific objective.
• Tactics are the specific actions or maneuvers employed to implement that strategy.

For instance, a buyer’s objective might be to reduce costs. The strategy could range from developing new suppliers to collaborating for value creation. Tactics are then the moves—such as employing “logic levers” or persuasive messaging—that bring the chosen strategy to life.

The Power of Gaining Leverage

Sean’s go-to negotiation strategy, especially in high-stakes procurement deals, is to gain leverage. Leverage puts pressure on the other party to make concessions without having to give away value early. While it can seem aggressive, Sean emphasizes that this approach can be effective in both win-win and win-lose scenarios, provided you use the right tactics and maintain respect for the relationship.

However, leverage isn’t about domination. Leverage, when used with progressive and collaborative tactics, creates the opportunity for both parties to get their share of the “pie”—even when that pie grows through collaboration.

The Persuasion Sandwich

So, how do you gain and apply leverage without damaging long-term relationships? Sean introduces three core negotiation tactics, ultimately wrapped into what he calls the Persuasion Sandwich:

• Action Consequences (The “Threat”): This is where you clearly articulate the consequences of non-action, e.g., “We can’t supply you unless the price increases.” While the term “threat” might sound harsh, it’s simply drawing clear boundaries.
• Emotional Acceptance: To prevent escalation or defensiveness, frame tough messages with empathy and respect. “I’d love to work with you, but due to our costs, we can’t lower our price further.” It’s about being hard on the issue, soft on the person.
• Logic Levers: Make your position believable and credible. Use logic by highlighting your worth as a partner, creating a sense of competition with others, or subtly shifting value focuses to place the other party off balance. These levers (us, others, them) make your persuasive message more convincing.

By blending these elements, the persuasion sandwich becomes a sophisticated yet non-confrontational way to negotiate assertively without alienating your counterpart.

Harnessing Preparation and Recognizing Tactics

One of Sean’s golden rules is that preparation is everything. He advocates spending 80% of your effort preparing—analyzing your own and your counterpart’s position, planning your moves, and developing tradeable concessions. Even the most skilled negotiators wish they had prepared more.

Understanding and countering aggressive tactics—like strong anchoring, “take it or leave it” offers, or last-minute demands comes down to anticipation and response. Recognize the move, re-anchor with confidence and logic, or be ready with a tradeable variable to maintain balance.

Sean distinguishes between two classic strategies:

• Win-Lose (transactional, competitive, price-focused)
• Win-Win (collaborative, value-focused, deals with asymmetric variables that provide differing value to each side)

While not every negotiation will veer toward true collaboration, building trust, focusing on shared objectives, and sometimes even shifting your “seating” position from face-to-face (competitive) to side-by-side (collaborative problem-solving) can move negotiations along the spectrum toward a win-win outcome.

Putting It All Together

Sean also shares a memorable story from his first week in a procurement role. By aligning internally with stakeholders and skillfully bluffing the supplier (using the persuasion sandwich), he secured a €200,000 saving, timely delivery, and stakeholder buy-in for future projects.

Sean’s advice is to prepare meticulously, wield tactics thoughtfully, always trade and never move for free, and build genuine rapport. Whether you’re in sales or procurement, mastering both strategy and tactics, and knowing when to use each, will set you apart as a true negotiation hero. Remember, the best negotiators seek to win, but they also strive to grow the pie for everyone at the table.

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1. What was a pivotal moment in your career that shaped your approach to negotiation, and how did it influence your strategy and tactics?

A pivotal moment was realising that negotiation isn’t just about fighting over a fixed pie, it’s about growing it, then claiming the biggest slice. That shifted everything. I now focus on both how to create value and how to capture it. It’s not enough to aim for win-win, you must win the win-win. Whether through asymmetric trades or long-term opportunities, I expand the deal first, then negotiate hard for my share. That mindset, create, then claim, transformed my results.

2. Can you share a specific negotiation tactic that has consistently helped you close deals more effectively? Please provide an example where it worked.

The Persuasion Sandwich always gives me a structured way to gain leverage whilst preserving relationships. This once helped me with a negotiation where an incumbent bulk chemical supplier tried to raise the price significantly. My prepared Persuasion Sandwich turned this round.

Now I teach persuasion sandwich as one of the key tactics in my negotiation trainings for sales and procurement professionals. It is a structured way to deliver tough messages professionally.

You layer emotion → logic → pressure → logic → emotion, so the message lands firmly, but never aggressively. It helps you move the other party without damaging the relationship.

3. What is the most challenging negotiation you’ve ever faced, and what strategy or tactic helped you turn it into a win?

One of the toughest negotiations I handled was at the end of a raw material contract. The supplier came in with a steep price increase, and the challenge was, we didn’t have a BATNA ready.

So, walking away wasn’t realistic for us, but rolling over wasn’t acceptable either. So, I used a negotiation tactic which I named Logic Levers: Us, Others, and Them. This is now a key concept in my training and book. 

4. What are your top three must-have tools, frameworks, or resources that sales professionals should use to improve their negotiation skills?

These concepts are all covered in my book Become a Negotiation Hero: In Sales & Procurement, and they’re the tools I’ve seen make the biggest difference in real negotiations.

1. The Persuasion Sandwich (mentioned in Question 2)
2. Bluff-4

Bluffing isn’t about lying; it’s about projecting power when you don’t have it. This framework helps you bluff smartly by working out:

1. How much you could gain,
2. How much you could lose,
3. How strong your story is, and
4. What your fallback is if the bluff fails.

It gives you confidence to push without getting cornered.

3. Using AI Negotiation Preparation Buddy

My best resources when it comes to prepare for the negotiation is using The Negotiation Preparation Buddy (AI tool). 

It structures your whole preparation. We’ve put together a whole set of AI-powered preparation tools at: 

https://www.becomenegotiationhero.com/ai-links

5. With buyer behaviours evolving and AI playing a larger role in sales, how do you see negotiation strategies and tactics changing in the future? What should sales professionals do to stay ahead?

Great negotiation still comes down to human judgement, persuasion, and strategy, but AI gives you a massive edge in preparation. Use tools that make you sharper before the negotiation even starts.

There’s one tool I would particularly recommend: the BANH Negotiation Preparation Buddy. You just talk to it like a coach, and it helps you get super clear on your goals, variables, leverage, and strategy. It’s available at: https://www.becomeanegotiationhero.com/

6. What is a simple but powerful negotiation tactic that most salespeople overlook?

One of the most powerful and underused tactics is what we call the Fake Walkaway.

If you focus on your real walkaway, your hard limit, you start negotiating towards it, even unintentionally. That’s dangerous. Instead, we create a Fake Walkaway: a logical, justifiable position that’s tougher than your real walkaway. I call it pink elephant. 

Why the pink elephant? Because once you’re told not to think of a grey elephant (your real walkaway), it’s hard not to. So instead, we picture the pink elephant, the fake one. It gives you psychological distance from your real walkaway. It’s simple, but massively effective, makes you negotiate from a position of strength, and if you do need to move, you’re still in safe territory.